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Thursday, November 17, 2005

Perpetual effort for perpetual ignorance

Posted by: Hammer / 7:56 AM

Here's an Agape news brief:

...The producer of a new documentary on Saddam Hussein says there is no question that the deposed Iraqi dictator possessed weapons of mass destruction. The question, he says, should be: where did the WMDs go? Former real estate broker Brad L. Maaske interviewed dozens of Iraqis in producing his DVD Weapon of Mass Destruction: The Murderous Reign of Saddam Hussein. He says it is absurd that the American Left continues to get away with their claims that the former dictator did not possess WMDs. "There's interview after interview of people who say they saw truckloads of something going out through Syria and into the Bekaa Valley of Lebanon," he recalls. "And of course we've tried to track that as best we can. The U.S. military can't go into Syria; it can't go into Lebanon. But the question is, where did those weapons go?" Maaske says it does not take much to create a weapon of mass destruction. "There didn't have to be massive stockpiles of chemicals," he explains. "A few 55-gallon drums of a nerve gas could kill a million people if properly dispersed, so it's not that difficult for him to get rid of what he had." Maaske says U.S. officials discovered that more than one-third of the WMDs turned over by Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi came from Iraq.

We know that Saddam Hussein did have WMD -- we have the receipts. (Anyone know the origin of that joke?) Why does the American Left claim that Hussein had no WMDs at the time of the invasion? Because the president's hand-picked search teams found nothing. Because report after report has come to the same conclusion: Hussein lacked weapons of mass destruction at the time of the invasion. It's reality; deal with it.

One other point on 55 gallon drums of this and that. A few 55 gallon drums of lots of things could kill a million people if "properly dispersed". Bullets dispersed through skulls. Rat poison dispersed through middle school cafeteria taco meat. Mercury dispersed through the fish we eat. Pick your poison.


Never mind the fact they didn't have a delivery mechanism to get the damn stuff to anywhere important.


By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:27 AM  

Well, be careful with your arguements. It doesn't take much of a delivery system to deliver some pretty nasty stuff - assuming, of course, that they had it in the first place. It's fine to point out incorrect facts and incorrect conclusions based thereon, but don't go overboard with your condemnation. It weakens your argument.
I'm as tired of hysteria from the left as I am of hysteria from the right.

By Anonymous therealrepublican, at 11:18 AM  

I'm going to stand by my post, TRR. The Agape item isn't just claiming that Hussein had chemical weapons, but also implies that Hussein could've used those weapons to kill millions of people. Hussein was closer to slipping strychnine into the lunch line than he was to spraying nerve gas via unmanned aerial drones.

By Blogger Hammer, at 11:26 AM  

Hysteria? Be careful? Weakens my argument? What the hell are you talking about?

I know exactly what I am talking about: military targeting. You can't just open up a barrel of this stuff or spray it with a hose.

The point here is that it does take one hell of a delivery system to deliver this stuff. Not only that, but it takes massive amounts of training to properly deliver the load. If you don't know what you're doing, the stuff simply doesn't work all that well (see sarin in Tokyo).

The only thing hysterical about talk concerning delivery systems is that the administration floated the honest-to-god idea that Saddam could deliver this stuff via a wooden drone.

Hysteria? Get out of here. They didn't have the capability to threaten us with WMD even if they had them in the first place.


By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:33 PM  

If you define things down far enough every nation in the world possesses WMD. An irate Costa Rican dropping diseased cows out of a Cesna shouldn't be reason enough for a preemptive strike on Central America.

And of course the right hates the thought that Iraq's last major WMD stash was destroyed in a bombing run in 1998 since that would mean that Bill Clinton might get some credit for it. Saddam certainly wanted WMDs, it's just that thanks to the first gulf war and continued action after that he had lost pretty much any capacity to acquire them by the time W was in office. (And some of us, TRR included, are old enough to remember how Israel destroyed an Iraqi nuclear plant several decades ago. In retrospect a pretty good idea. Bonus points to Joseph, or anyone else, who can name the Bob Dylan song that alludes to that event.)

By Blogger Jambo, at 12:37 PM  

Hey, I am not saying that there were WMDs. My point is simply that you should not screw up a perfectly good argument by adding one that is isn't. (Don't know if I'm old enough, Jambo, but my sister surely is)

By Anonymous therealrepublican, at 1:00 PM  

Neighborhood Bully off of the Infadels album.

Some people call this Bob's "racist song". Others have claimed it is about Sabra and Shatila.

Personally, we think it's Bob's Zionist song; referring generally to the actions of Israel.

Here are the lyrics:

Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man,
His enemies say he's on their land.
They got him outnumbered about a million to one,
He got no place to escape to, no place to run.
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully just lives to survive,
He's criticized and condemned for being alive.
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin,
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in.
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land,
He's wandered the earth an exiled man.
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn,
He's always on trial for just being born.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized,
Old women condemned him, said he should apologize.
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad.
The bombs were meant for him. He was supposed to feel bad.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, the chances are against it and the odds are slim
That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him,
'Cause there's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a license to kill him is given out to every maniac.
He's the neighborhood bully.

He got no allies to really speak of.
What he gets he must pay for, he don't get it out of love.
He buys obsolete weapons and he won't be denied
But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace,
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease.
Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly. To hurt one they would weep.
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Every empire that's enslaved him is gone,
Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon.
He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand,
In bed with nobody, under no one's command.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Now his holiest books have been trampled upon,
No contract he signed was worth what it was written on.
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth,
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health.
He's the neighborhood bully.

What's anybody indebted to him for?
Nothin', they say. He just likes to cause war.
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed,
They wait for this bully like a dog waits to feed.
He's the neighborhood bully.

What has he done to wear so many scars?
Does he change the course of rivers? Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill,
Running out the clock, time standing still,
Neighborhood bully


By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:29 PM  

That didn't take long. I bought Infidels when it came out back in the early 80s and at the time it seemed pretty clear what he was talking about with these lines:

"Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad.
The bombs were meant for him. He was supposed to feel bad.
He's the neighborhood bully."

I've always thought it was one of his more underrated albums.

By Blogger Jambo, at 5:26 PM  

definitely underrated. right up there with Good as I've Been to You in the underrated department.


By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:29 PM  

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